Hello guys.. I normally create website for fun, but a couple
of days ago a friend told me he needed a website for his
Restaurant, then he asked me how much I would charge him… Bu I
don’t know about this things.. I hope you guys can give me an Idea
of how it works,,
Thank you..
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> Hello guys.. I normally create website for fun, but a
couple of days ago a
> friend told me he needed a website for his Restaurant,
then he asked me
> how
> much I would charge him…
…free dinners for life.
-Darrel
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Figure how much time it would take you and multiply that by
how much your
time is worth.
To get a good estimate of how much your time should be worth,
ask a local
plumber what they charge per hour – charge that.
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> Hello guys.. I normally create website for fun, but a
couple of days ago a
> friend told me he needed a website for his Restaurant,
then he asked me
> how
> much I would charge him… Bu I don’t know about this
things.. I hope you
> guys
> can give me an Idea of how it works,,
>
> Thank you..
>
>
http://webofwonders.blogspot.com
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Be careful though, you don’t want to be worth more dead, than
alive.
Seriously though, pricing discussions are frowned upon by the
Forum rules.
There was a thread started on 5/26 under the subject line
“Wed design fees”
Search for that mispelling exactly.
“darrel” <notreal@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>> Hello guys.. I normally create website for fun, but
a couple of days ago
>> a
>> friend told me he needed a website for his
Restaurant, then he asked me
>> how
>> much I would charge him…
>
> …free dinners for life.
>
> -Darrel
>
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On Fri, 15 Jun 2007, Ken Binney wrote
>Seriously though, pricing discussions are frowned upon by
the Forum
>rules. There was a thread started on 5/26 under the
subject line “Wed
>design fees” Search for that mispelling exactly.
Repeating the question I asked in that thread. Where is the
‘forum rule’
about pricing discussion actually stated.
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Richard Mason
http://www.emdpi.com
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> Repeating the question I asked in that thread. Where is
the ‘forum rule’
> about pricing discussion actually stated.
Did you read Patty’s reply to your question in that thread?
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John Waller
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On Sat, 16 Jun 2007, John Waller wrote
>Did you read Patty’s reply to your question in that
thread?
Of course, but it was not actually an answer to my question.
The official word on “Forum rules” is not some Macromedia
employee
popping in to give a personal opinion but the “Adobe forums
posting
guidelines”.
http://www.adobe.com/support/forums/guidelines.html
These do not mention pricing discussions and, in any event,
are more
honoured in the breach than the observance. One guideline is
“Don’t
quote previous messages” and most newsgroup users do just
that.
What I was indirectly pointing out was that there is no
restriction on
discussing pricing and such discussions do take place from
time to time
without most people being bothered, other than being compared
to
plumbers.
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Richard Mason
http://www.emdpi.com
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> These do not mention pricing discussions and, in any
event, are more
> honoured in the breach than the observance.
They are not going to be able to issue guidelines to cover
every specific
topic which can be discussed.
Pre-Adobe, individual Macromedia moderators indicated a
preference that
pricing discussions be kept to a minimum or discussed
elsewhere. Perhaps
Adobe has a different view.
One guideline is “Don’t
> quote previous messages” and most newsgroup users do
just that.
That’s rather selective. It goes on to say “avoid excessive
quoting”
> What I was indirectly pointing out was that there is no
restriction on
> discussing pricing and such discussions do take place
from time to time
> without most people being bothered, other than being
compared to plumbers.
Agreed.
I guess the only bit that bothers me is those who keep
insisting that
pricing discussions amount to price fixing which is nonsense.
–
Regards
John Waller
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Discussing pricing here is an unproductive effort. Pricing is
so regional,
it’s so subjective, it’s so dependent on other factors not in
consideration
that there is no value in having anyone reveal what *they*
would charge for
any given operation.
Discussing pricing is NOT price fixing, however it could lead
to a question
as to whether there was actual collusion between parties that
could be
competing with each other, and that can involve serious legal
ramifications.
Macromedia asked that we not mention specific pricing more
than once, and
I’ll bet, given the chance Adobe would too.
Nobody is going to get sued for quoting previous posts.
Somebody could face
legal action for price discussions, for whatever reason,
whether valid or
not. That somebody would not be you or me, it would be Adobe
for providing
the means for this to happen.
Since pricing is so variable, it’s an easy request to abide
by. You have
been given usable guidelines for how to price stuff that
transcend any
regional, personal, subjective, cosmic, spiritual boundaries.
What would
you expect more?
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“Richard Mason” <whitneyrm@xtra.co.nz> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 16 Jun 2007, John Waller wrote
>
>>Did you read Patty’s reply to your question in that
thread?
>
> Of course, but it was not actually an answer to my
question.
>
> The official word on “Forum rules” is not some
Macromedia employee popping
> in to give a personal opinion but the “Adobe forums
posting guidelines”.
>
>
http://www.adobe.com/support/forums/guidelines.html
>
> These do not mention pricing discussions and, in any
event, are more
> honoured in the breach than the observance. One
guideline is “Don’t quote
> previous messages” and most newsgroup users do just
that.
>
> What I was indirectly pointing out was that there is no
restriction on
> discussing pricing and such discussions do take place
from time to time
> without most people being bothered, other than being
compared to plumbers.
>
> —
> Richard Mason
>
http://www.emdpi.com
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I didn’t mean to talk about THE MONEY but to talk about
“Expensive or not”?. Some of my questions were answered . thanks a
lot guys…
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>I didn’t mean to talk about THE MONEY just to talk about
“Expensive or
>not”?. Some of my questions were answered . thanks a lot
guys…
>
One thing you really need to judge, that we can’t, is how
much experience you have – how much of an expert you are.
To charge by the hour when you are still learning can be a
problem, because what you need to really do is either adjust
your hourly rate because you are a novice or delete your
learning
time. Even those of us in the biz for awhile need to do this
at times because we may be trying something new, always\
learning, etc.
In programming, it gets really confusing because you may have
the
foundations of an application a customer needs and only need
to
refine it for the customer – then you are really into “value”
charging.
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> Macromedia asked that we not mention specific pricing
more than once, and
> I’ll bet, given the chance Adobe would too.
But isn’t that all based on them actually READING these
newsgroups? ;o)
-Darrel
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No.
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“darrel” <notreal@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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>> Macromedia asked that we not mention specific
pricing more than once, and
>> I’ll bet, given the chance Adobe would too.
>
> But isn’t that all based on them actually READING these
newsgroups? ;o)
>
> -Darrel
>
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> No.
Rules are only rules if someone is enforcing them. ;o)
As for ‘price fixing’ I gotta agree with John…it’s a common
but completely
unfounded paranoid reaction in a lot of newsgroups to just
ban all talk of
it for fear of price fixing.
When professional groups PUBLISH their own pricing guidelines
such as the
Graphic Artist’s Guild or the AIGA salary surveys, it’s
hardly believable to
think that a handful of web designers on the internet would
ever be able to
pull of some sort of price fixing scheme.
That said, if Adobe don’t like it, they don’t like it.
-Darrel
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quote:
Search for that mispelling exactly.
*snicker*
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